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Kaos, tu as dû vouloir dire 18 JUIN 40...III/JG52-Freiherr V. Kaos a écrit :Ah, connais pas, j'esseyerais celui-ci.
Au vu du titre, il semblerait que nos voisins grand-Bretons aient enfin compris que la Bataille de France ne s'est pas arrêtée le 18 mai 40.
592 pages, 900 illustrations, ça ne rigole pas.
Si on a vraiment une étude sérieuse des revendications comparée et fouillée AdA et RAF, ça risque d'être bigrement intéressant.
Merci pour l'info!
30/10/1939
2.(F)/123 Dornier Do17P. Shot down by P/O Mould of No.1 Squadron during photo-reconnaissance sortie south-west of Toul. Crashed and exploded at Traveron, north of Sauvigny 2.45 p.m. Hptmn B. von Normann und Audenhove (Staffelkapitän), Oberlt H. Heisterbergk, and Fw F. Pfeuffer killed. Aircraft a write-off.
First enemy aircraft shot down over France by the RAF since 1918. Subject of post-war excavation when the remains of both BMW 132N radial engines were unearthed.
19/05/1940
Stabsstaffel KG54 Heinkel He111P. Shot down Hurricanes north-east of Tournai during armed reconnaissance flight to Arras 4.00 p.m. Obergefr J. Weiß and Obergefr H. Elias killed. Major J. Segschneider (Stabsstaffelkapitän) and Uffz H. Haferkamp captured wounded. Uffz H. Senft captured unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
Aircraft of I./KG54 plus the Geschwaderstab formed part of the many heavy raids encountered near Cambrai and Lille between 3.10 p.m. and 4.15 p.m. by Hurricanes of Nos. 3, 85, 87, 111, 145, 213, 253, and 601 Squadrons this afternoon. Given the complexity of the fighting, it has not been possible to attribute individual losses to each of the 18 claims for Heinkels submitted by British pilots.
Stabsstaffel KG54 Heinkel He111P. Shot down by Hurricanes north-east of Tournai during armed reconnaissance flight to Arras 4.00 p.m. Oberst W. Lackner (Geschwaderkommodore) and Oberlt H. Howe (Geschwaderadjutant) baled out and captured wounded. Oberlt R. Sandstede (Geschwadernachrichtungsoffizier), Uffz T. Berz, Uffz W. Papendorf, and Uffz A. Mußgnug killed. Aircraft B3+AA a write-off.
Walter Lackner escaped from French captivity and returned home to a wave of press publicity while Heinrich Howe was shipped to England a prisoner of the British. So many officers flying in the same crew was not officially condoned and, after several notable losses, would be expressly forbidden.
Stabsstaffel KG54 Heinkel He111P. Shot down by Hurricanes near Tournai during armed reconnaissance flight to Arras 4.00 p.m. Oberlt H. Fligge, Uffz T. Pannig, and Obergefr E. Schmidt killed. Uffz R. Wirthwein captured wounded. Aircraft a write-off.
06/06/1940
I./JG53 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1. Wrecked in taxying accident. Pilot unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
1./JG53 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1 (1346). Engaged by ground fire near Metz during transit flight from Wiesbaden to Charleville and lost bearings. Belly-landed north of Faverolles, north-west of Langres. Uffz P. Grond evaded but captured 4 days later at La Neuville-sous-Monfort. Aircraft 8 + a write-off.
7./JG53 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1. Shot down by Adj Crocq of GC II/1 in combat south-east of Soissons and crashed north of Belleu 8.50 a.m. Fw H. Galubinski baled out and captured wounded. Aircraft a write-off.
14/05/1940
607 SQUADRON, VITRY-EN-ARTOIS
Hurricane P2621. Shot down by Lt Hahn of 4./JG2 over Corroy-le-Château during attack on Hs123s of II.(S)/LG2. Crashed and burned out at ‘la Carrièrre’, Perwez, north of Namur 10.55 a.m. Flight Lieutenant J. L. Sullivan (of No.242 Squadron) killed. Aircraft a write-off.
One of four replacement pilots from No.242 Squadron who arrived from England that morning, Sullivan was the first of his unit to die in action. Pilot Officers R. D. Grassick and W. L. McKnight were subsequently transferred to No.615 Squadron at Moorsele, while Pilot Officer P. S. Turner remained with No.607 Squadron; all three survivors returning to their original unit at Church Fenton on 20 May.
Hurricane P2618. Shot down by Fw Harbauer of 4./JG2 over Corroy-le-Château during attack on Hs123s of II.(S)/LG2. Crashed at Aische-en-Refail, north of Namur, 10.55 a.m. Flying Officer G. I. Cuthbert killed. Aircraft a write-off.
Originally buried in the local communal cemetery, Gerald Cuthbert was subsequently reinterred in Hotton War Cemetery. A replacement pilot, he had arrived from No.601 Squadron only the previous day.
Hurricane P2713. Shot down by Bf109s of 4./JG2 over Corroy-le-Château during attack on Hs123s of II.(S)/LG2 10.55 a.m. Possibly that claimed by Fw Schnell. Pilot Officer A. E. le Breuilly missing. Aircraft lost.
14/06/1940
1 SQUADRON, NANTES-CHÂTEAU BOUGON
Hurricane. Failed to return from shipping escort patrol over St-Nazaire, details not recorded. Flight Lieutenant F. Warcup baled out and captured. Aircraft a write-off.
Hurricane. Failed to return from shipping escort patrol over St Nazaire, details not recorded. Flight Lieutenant M. H. Brown baled out unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
242 SQUADRON, LE MANS
Hurricane. Became separated and lost bearings following combat with Bf110s of 9./ZG26 over Conches 4.05 p.m. Wrecked undercarriage by hitting a ditch during forced-landing near Blain, north of Nantes. Pilot Officer N. K. Stansfeld unhurt. Aircraft a write-off.
A partir du 16 mai , les anglais engagent des flights de 8 squadrons du 11 groupe sur le continent partant du principe qu"envoyer une demi-escadrille n'entrainera pas la perte totale du squadron si cela tourne mal .III/JG52-Freiherr V. Kaos a écrit :Les Anglais font beaucoup de flan (Je suis un peu dur, là, quand même, ils n'ont pas démérités) à propos des actions des squadrons de chasse de l'AASF jusqu'au 18 mai. Après, ce n'est pas le vide cosmique, mais pas loin.
Les interventions au dessus de Dunkerque, c'est dû au fighter command basé au Royaume Uni.
Même chose le 18 mai, tu peux lire la suite sur le site du N° 151 SqnThe Squadron was ordered to Manston, but due to a shortage of both pilots and aircraft, only nine, comprising Red, Yellow and Blue Sections could be made available. They took off at 0300 hrs, but at 0730 hrs, after refuelling they were ordered off yet again but this time to proceed to Abbeville where they landed at 0830 hrs. At 1000 hrs, the Squadron was airborne on an offensive patrol in the Lille-Valenciennes area.
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At 1930 hrs, the Squadron returned to Manston. Damaged aircraft were flown to North Weald for repair and replacement, and the Squadron was then stood down until noon the next day.
Il y a la journée du 19 mai ou les anglais perdent 22 avions + 13 indisponibles, ils revendiquent 14 bf 109 et 14 he 111
La journée du 21 voit la revendication de 6 henschel , bf 109 et 10 ju 87
La confusion c'est moi qui l'ai faiteA priori aucun Ju 87 revendiqué le 21 mai, il y a confusion avec le 22 mai. Et le 19 mai c'est plus d'une trentaine de He 111 qui sont revendiqués par les Hurricane basés en France, avec une vingtaine de Bf 109.
Merci pour la réponseLa chasse britannique rend les coups et annonce avoir abattu quatorze BF 109 et autant de he 111 du kg 54.
Tubs a écrit :Ou comment reprendre pour une publication, sans vé]mais c'est Cull[/U] qui annonce la perte du côté de la Luftwaffe de 14 Bf 109 et de 14 He 111 (de la KG 54).
Quoi qu'il en soit, la journée a été fructueuse pour les Hurricane, avec sans doute 35 à 40 appareils abattus, mais pour la perte de quelques 35 Hurricane, .
Cela dépend si ils ont atterri tous en france. Si c'est en angleterre, ce n'est pas impossible qu'ils soient réparés par la suite car c"était un point fort de cet avion.car il ne faut pas se leurrer, sur la douzaine de Hurricane ayant fait un atterrissage forcé, on peut légitimement supposer que quasiment aucun n'a été récupéré