Avion mystere !

[BlackbirdSR71]

Apres les cockpits mysteres, un petit avion mystere ??

[mittelkimono]

MIG 15 capturé en corée et volant pour un agressor squadron quelquonque?

[YSony]

Celui piloté par Chuck Yeager ?

[maitretomtom]

Ou celui du pilote nord coréen qui a déserté en 1953, repeint pour des tests ?

[BlackbirdSR71]

Oui, il s'agit effectivement d'un MiG-15 nord corean capturé par les sud corean et donner au USA qui l'on tester a Okinawa.

[BlackbirdSR71]

un petit autre:

Et non ce n'est pas un Eurofighter capturé par les soviets

[mittelkimono]

on dirait la voilure d' un mig 21...

[BlackbirdSR71]

je dirais oui...

[PolluxDeltaSeven]

C'est un Ye-8

Un proto aérodynamique pour Mig il me semble... Sensé représenté une nouvelle génération de Mig-21 (il me semble qu'il a même porté le titre de "mig-23" à un moment)

C'est un peu comme les J-7 chinois: de trés nombreux appareils ont été issu du design de base du Mig-21, certains gardant la voilure, d'autres le fuselage etc...

[BlackbirdSR71]

exacte! Abandonné a cause de instabiliter et incontrolable en vrille

[YSony]

Abandonné a cause de instabiliter et incontrolable en vrille

ah...

Ceux qui ont dessiné l'Eurofighter devaient pas être au courant, alors... :laugh:

[BlackbirdSR71]

ils n'avait pas trop les commandes de vol electronique aussi a l'epoque ...
D'ailleur le Eurofighter est aussi instable (aerodynamiquement)

[PolluxDeltaSeven]

On a inventé les commandes de vol électoniques depuis

EDIT: grillé par Blackbird!!

J'peux en poser un petit d'avion mystère?? Peu connu mais pas trop dur à trouvé

[BlackbirdSR71]

bien sur c'est le but du post

[PolluxDeltaSeven]

Et voila!!!!!

Un de mes petits chouchou, injustement bien trop méconnu!!

[BlackbirdSR71]

je dirait anglais, peut etre experimantal, mais c'est gros comme zinc !
peut etre transport mais ca une petite air de hydravion

[YSony]

C'est un hydravion de chasse conçu à la fin de la WWII pour le théatre pacifique.
Il avait eu son Fana de l'Aviation il y a 5 ans, mais pas moyen de me rappeler son nom...

[PolluxDeltaSeven]

C'est en effet expérimental, il a bien été conçu à la fin de la WWII, c'est un hydravion de chasse britannique, assez petit (je vous laisse imaginer la visibilité!!)...

Bon, j'vais me coucher: réponse demain si persone ne trouve d'ici là

[SpruceGoose]

North Korean Turns Over A MiG

On 21 September 1953 a disenchanted North Korean pilot made a decision that changed his life and American history. Lt No (pronounced ro) Kum Suk was through with the North Korean government and determined to make a break for freedom. Lt. No was a fighter company commander in the second Regiment of the North Korean People's Air Force. He thought about defection number of times before, yet could not do it until his unit moved south to Sunan Airfield outside of Pyongyang after the war was over. He normally flew MiG-15bis Red 408, but on that he flew a MiG-15bis with the tactical number Red 2057. His regular aircraft had not arrived at Sunan yet. Number 2057 was normally flown in combat by a pilot named Kim Dea-Soon. It had been one of the first MiGs smuggled by rail back into North Korea from Manchuria after the cease-fire and re-assembled. The "2057" was a recently painted North Korean number, replacing its original Soviet tactical number. The fact that 2057 was a "bis" model, or advanced model of the MiG15, made it more desirable for the Americans. Its VK-1 engine had 1,000 lbs more thrust than the RD-45 engine of the earlier version, and had hydraulic ailerons. It was a real catch for the Air Technical Intelligence Center to get an updated version of this jet. During his escape, Lt No purposely allowed another pilot to take off first. This was the first flight from Sunan since the war ended, and it was quite an honor. The other pilot readily accepted. Lt No hoped the first pilot would take his time and it would divert attention from his planned escape. He flew as second aircraft in the flight of three. Near the end of his flight, No broke to the south instead of landing in Sunan. It took only about thirteen minutes to make a straight approach. He made a downwind landing with F-86s landing on the same runway, scaring the pilot to death. He parked alongside an F-86 sitting alert on the ramp. He jumped down and began shaking hands. Although he did not know it at the time, the US offered $100,000 to the first pilot to fly a MiG-15 to the south. He found out at a news conference. The MiG was partially disassembled by Air Tactical Intelligence Center at Kimpo and flown in a C-124 to Kadena AB, Okinawa to be test-flown. PROJECT ZETA began. The USAF removed the North Korean markings and replaced them with small USAF markings. The US pilots did 11 test flights, and pushed the MiG probably harder that the Russians ever tested it. Test engineers had to modify some of the instrumentation, yet found the MiG very easy to work on. After the flight test at Okinawa the aircraft was disassembled and flown to Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, where it was thoroughly examined by Air Technical Intelligence Center personnel before reassembly and more flight-testing. The photo shows what the jet looked like as it was flown here at Wright-Patterson.
The large TC616 was different than the initial markings on Okinawa. Rumor has it that the "TC" stood for the test pilot Tom Collins' initials. Since Chuck Yeager was the other main pilot, Mr. Ken Rowe (Lt No's Americanized name) believed it stood for "Tom and Chuck!"

[SpruceGoose]

Et voila!!!!!

Un de mes petits chouchou, injustement bien trop méconnu!!

Saunders-Roe SR/A1

(trouvé dans Wings of the Weird and Wonderful Vol 2) - Cpt E Brown

[PolluxDeltaSeven]

Et c'est Spruce Goose qui gagne la tringle à rideau Ikea!!!!!!!


Signé Pollux insomniaque...

[Azrayen]

Boouh qu'il est pas beau

Bon, à moi. Je ne fournis pas la photo complète, ce serait trop facile, mais trois vues partielles.
Indice : ce n'est pas celui auquel vous penserez en premier !

Az'

[SpruceGoose]

... Indice : ce n'est pas celui auquel vous penserez en premier !

Grumman Tracker

[asnamara]

ben on voit trop de details

E-1B Tracer sur l'USS Intrepid

[SpruceGoose]

... Et cet avion à l'allure très moderne !