(MAJ) sortie de clodo + Screenshots de BoB in-game !

[Spider67]

"...(je serais même prêt à payer pour ce mod).

Je serais toi je n'ouvrirais pas cette porte !!
Dans ce cas ce ne serait plus un mod mais un add-on et on va peut-être en bouffer de l'add-on !!

[sport02]

d' un autre coté pour avoir les jambes et pas les bras et mains ..

il y a des animations pour les jeux de bagnoles mais c 'est pas top et ça immerge moins encore que rien du tout

[tiger_33]

Comme COD sera moddable

Ah bon tu tiens ça d'où ?

[rollnloop]

Oleg l'a annoncé il y a 4 ans. Maintenant le modding sera plus ou moins encadré dans son idée, la protection CRT=2 sera sans doute remplacée par plus performant, et si certains mods auront la possibilité d'être officialisé, il faudra passer par le cahier des charges Olegien.

J'ai quand même bon espoir pour la possibilité d'un ultimate soundmod of dover, tôt ou tard

[PB0_YoYo]

J'ai quand même bon espoir pour la possibilité d'un ultimate soundmod of dover, tôt ou tard

Attendons de voir...On sait jamais, les sons sont peut être super...

[sport02]

tout a fait , en parlant de son ceux des canons du 109 claquent tres fort dans le cockpit d 'apres le compte rendu fait recemment par un testeur :

'' Le son est génial, d'énormes "BAANG" à chaque tir au canon ''

[Obelix]

Comme COD sera moddable, j'espère donc qu'un moddeur proposera des "jambes" et que celles-ci soient "switchables" (je serais même prêt à payer pour ce mod).

Pareil, si ce sont les jambes nues de Betty Grable...

[tiger_33]

Attendons de voir...On sait jamais, les sons sont peut être super...

Tout a fait,si tel est le cas alors tant mieux et je me régale par avance de pouvoir voler avec COD.

[Krasno]

En tout cas, je ne sais pas si vous avez suivi, mais Oleg a expliqué qu'ils n'avaient pas les moyens nécessaires pour envoyer quelqu'un prendre des enregistrements en Europe Occidentale. J'ai cru comprendre que les sons de Merlin ou DB étaient adaptés à partir d'enregistrements sur moteurs dispos en Russie.

[C.Erwan]

Pas de nouvelles ?.. Bonnes nouvelles?

[jvmasset]

Il y a sur le forum 1C toute une série de vidéos prises au téléphone durant le show de Kiev ou se trouvent Oleg et Luthier en ce moment.
Très belle eau et réflections, mais la carte est une carte dogfight online je pense (les rivages ont des coins carrés!!), fluidité bonne...

Enormément de commentaires de différents visiteurs (en russe) sur Sukhoi.ru. Les visiteurs avaient tous la même checklist à vérifier...Impressions générales extrêmement positives...Il paraît clair que les screenshots ne rendent absolument pas justice au jeu (on le savait!). Premières images d'explosions et même de cratères (en 3D relief)...J'ai même vu un canon de 88 brûler (bizarre...)

Apparemment d'autres vidéos de meilleures qualité (Camcorder Hd je suppose) devraient arriver rapidement...

[Vylsain]

On y voit d'ailleurs un hurricane voler sans aile droite ! ^^

[Aloko]

Les retours des visiteurs du salon, posté Par Furbs sur SimHQ:

- Dynamic lightning in cockpits look awesome
- water is very photorealistic, full of details
- Horizon and sky are outstanding. you can feel the "deep" of them. The whole atmosphere surrounding plane is verry good, you can feel that its windy and sunny outside of plane
- Flying over ground make game to drop fps quite significantly, sometimes quite unpleasent to fly.
- Hits on the plane are very visible, small cloud on smoke on every hit like in guncams.
- Tracers are really helpfull for better aiming. Some people doesnt like the way they look, other like them very much. Luthier was asked about them and he answered that tracers are perfect and very close to reality. point.
- hard to shot down other airplanes (more on that later)
- oil marks on windows are very realistic and nice
- [bug] you can see grass appearing inside your hurricane while its on land
- some people report that props keep rotating even if you hit the land with it, but later everyone come to conclusion that same damage settings was turned of
- hurricane is much more sluggish that Spitfire, therefore there are much less head movements in hurricane on every evolution
- All planes are much more sluggish than in IL-2
- guns (thoose things which are not cannons) are much more deadly now, they became real weapon. But its much harder to hit the plane as well
- explosions of land items are much better than in IL-2 but still not as in guncams
- rear view is much improved, you dont stare at your backseat, but look along side of the plane
- even equipment of pilot affects how your plane will behave. So its up to you whether take heavy parachute or not
- you can adjust vertical and horisontal aiming point of every gun individually
- every gun can have its own personal type of ammo
- you cant hear enemy on your 6
- its very hard to spot airplane now event on top of sky. Sun make things worse. People lost bots easily when they flew away in the derection of sun
- you can set enemy on fire with guns but you need to deliver enough hits which is hard
- rudder now affects fly much stronger.
- there are autorudder option which will make PC to control your rudder
- once you take off you need to get energy, now more 180 turns immediately after takeoff
- people avoided to fly over land because of perfomance reasons (even if graphics was on low settings).
- it is hard to tell if there was turbulence if you are on 6, probably not on this difficulty settings
- shooting enemies is really hard. If enemy doesnt see you - you have chance. if everyone sees everyone chances to shoot down anyone is minimal
- right turn is not really different from left turn on hurricane. Opposite for Bf-109 E3 - its almost dont do right turn
- even if you dive deeply and pull up you dont blackout
- when you dive deeply and pull up slump is quite heavy and very noticible
- flying over london on Low graphics settings was impossible, PC gave unacceptable FPS
- head movement is huge factor, aiming cross becomes invisible even on small G because heads goes away from sight device. Use tracers to correct your aim.
- when plane is on fire black smoke is so dense that you cant see plane when you on six and cant deliver few more rounds to him
- If you buy game on steam you'll need internet connection only once for activation. Then you can fly offline as much as you want using steam version
- !!! GAME IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING. Game version which will be released on disks is not final. When you'll go online to activate your game most up to date patch will be downloaded automatically, so 1C Games has more time to make game better.
- !!! 1C is publisher. At least 1C is fully controls what to put, where and when do a release. I have an impression from other discussions on sukhoi that UBI is just a distribution partner. Cant find a link to prove it.
- They are optimizing( =simplifying) weather and air flows. Its so much complex now that can make even high end machines to hang. Once PCs become better disabled features will be enabled back by patch.
-

Last but not least: everyone who tried game was impressed and never disappointed.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread ... 667&page=6

[sport02]

ils ont revu l' inertie des avions ou l' efficacité des commandes je sais pas , meme s' ils avaient dit que les mdv d' il2 etaient bons ils ont dû revoir le truc , ils allaient pas dire qu' ils etaient pas tout a fait juste non plus , quoique .
on peut s' attendre a redecouvrir le vol avec ces zincs .

[Pierre Alfaro]

Merci Aloko. Ces infos valent bien un Friday update!
Moins de six semaines à patienter...

[franboy01]

Oui merci Aloko pour ces infos

[sport02]

c' est vrai ,

pour l' hurricanne a qui il manque un bon moceau d' aile mais pas toute l' aile non plus et a la lecture du retours on peut penser qu' il joue en mode simplifié .

[Pierre Alfaro]

C'est vrai qu'il y a des pépites
Ce screenshot entre autres:

[ChrisDNT]

A lire tout ceci...

_________________________________
- Dynamic lightning in cockpits look awesome
- water is very photorealistic, full of details
- Horizon and sky are outstanding. you can feel the "deep" of them. The whole atmosphere surrounding plane is verry good, you can feel that its windy and sunny outside of plane
- Flying over ground make game to drop fps quite significantly, sometimes quite unpleasent to fly.
- Hits on the plane are very visible, small cloud on smoke on every hit like in guncams.
- Tracers are really helpfull for better aiming. Some people doesnt like the way they look, other like them very much. Luthier was asked about them and he answered that tracers are perfect and very close to reality. point.
- hard to shot down other airplanes (more on that later)
- oil marks on windows are very realistic and nice
- [bug] you can see grass appearing inside your hurricane while its on land
- some people report that props keep rotating even if you hit the land with it, but later everyone come to conclusion that same damage settings was turned of
- hurricane is much more sluggish that Spitfire, therefore there are much less head movements in hurricane on every evolution
- All planes are much more sluggish than in IL-2
- guns (thoose things which are not cannons) are much more deadly now, they became real weapon. But its much harder to hit the plane as well
- explosions of land items are much better than in IL-2 but still not as in guncams
- rear view is much improved, you dont stare at your backseat, but look along side of the plane
- even equipment of pilot affects how your plane will behave. So its up to you whether take heavy parachute or not
- you can adjust vertical and horisontal aiming point of every gun individually
- every gun can have its own personal type of ammo
- you cant hear enemy on your 6
- its very hard to spot airplane now event on top of sky. Sun make things worse. People lost bots easily when they flew away in the derection of sun
- you can set enemy on fire with guns but you need to deliver enough hits which is hard
- rudder now affects fly much stronger.
- there are autorudder option which will make PC to control your rudder
- once you take off you need to get energy, now more 180 turns immediately after takeoff
- people avoided to fly over land because of perfomance reasons (even if graphics was on low settings).
- it is hard to tell if there was turbulence if you are on 6, probably not on this difficulty settings
- shooting enemies is really hard. If enemy doesnt see you - you have chance. if everyone sees everyone chances to shoot down anyone is minimal
- right turn is not really different from left turn on hurricane. Opposite for Bf-109 E3 - its almost dont do right turn
- even if you dive deeply and pull up you dont blackout
- when you dive deeply and pull up slump is quite heavy and very noticible
- flying over london on Low graphics settings was impossible, PC gave unacceptable FPS
- head movement is huge factor, aiming cross becomes invisible even on small G because heads goes away from sight device. Use tracers to correct your aim.
- when plane is on fire black smoke is so dense that you cant see plane when you on six and cant deliver few more rounds to him
- If you buy game on steam you'll need internet connection only once for activation. Then you can fly offline as much as you want using steam version
- !!! GAME IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING. Game version which will be released on disks is not final. When you'll go online to activate your game most up to date patch will be downloaded automatically, so 1C Games has more time to make game better.
- !!! 1C is publisher. At least 1C is fully controls what to put, where and when do a release. I have an impression from other discussions on sukhoi that UBI is just a distribution partner. Cant find a link to prove it.
- They are optimizing( =simplifying) weather and air flows. Its so much complex now that can make even high end machines to hang. Once PCs become better disabled features will be enabled back by patch.
_________________________________


... qui paraît franchement excellent (sauf peut-être les traçantes), j'ai presque l'impression que les updates du vendredi ont souvent été du "downplaying" volontaire.

[Rodolphe]

...

on peut s' attendre a redecouvrir le vol avec ces zincs .

Au dire du Herr Kappellmeister Oleg et de son premier fifre Ilya, je pense qu'il ne faut pas s'attendre a des miracles au sujet des "nouveaux" modèles de vol disponibles dans le futur opus de notre adorée série IL2.

PCG. What makes Cliffs of Dover’s flight model better than Il-2’s?

ILYA: Simple. The formulas process more variables and are therefore more precise. Il-2 was pretty darn close to the real thing ([SIC] ), so the flight model in Cliffs of Dover doesn’t feel drastically new. You will see the most differences at low speeds and in adverse conditions such as stalls and spins. Basically, in Il-2 we calculated simpler physics at fewer points around the aircraft. In Cliffs of Dover, we look at more parameters in more places. In reality this means a codebase that’s many times larger. Our engine model alone is over 20 times the size of that of Il-2.

OLEG: All the above doesn’t mean you will need to learn to fly again. In normal flight, behaviours will be comparable to the original Il-2 series.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/08/il-2- ... hevchenko/
...

[sport02]

c' est justement ce que je dis : par la voie officielle c' est idem en gros a il2
mais pour le joueur Furbs sur SimHQ il y aurait des differences qui peuvent changer pas mal les sensations

[jvmasset]

c' est justement ce que je dis : par la voie officielle c' est idem en gros a il2
mais pour le joueur Furbs sur SimHQ il y aurait des differences qui peuvent changer pas mal les sensations

J'ai lu d'autres commentaires que celui de Furbs et l'impression générale est que les avions sont plus mous et réagissent moins "bien", ce qui m'a fait bien plaisir car pour moi cela signifie qu'on va enfin piloter des avions, avec leurs limites et un comportement réaliste.
Je pense que la modélisation des moments d'inertie est passé par là (ce qui explique cette sensation de lourdeur): même si le modèle aérodynamique/mécavol est le même, une modélisation fine des inerties changera radicalement les impressions et capacités...Ilya a dit qu'on allait en partie devoir réapprendre à piloter, et cela se concrétise...

JV

[C.Erwan]

sans oublié qu'il va enfin falloir ménager le moteur sinon y'en a qui vont apprendre à nager

[Don Diego 2000]

D'un coup ça sent très bon !

[Dokuro]

Sympa les infos mais bon, vous avez remarquer que la fluidité, c'est pas ça ...même au dessus de la mer

imaginez au dessus de la terre

je le sens pas trop là dessus !

et les commentaires ne me rassurent pas ...

Bref, on verra