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Cesium137 a écrit :je me demande vraiment comment les pilotes faisaient pour accrocher une cible sans savoir à l'avance où elle se trouvait exactement

*Aquila* a écrit :Utilisé en association avec le (très perfectible) contrôle d'interception de DCS World, le radar permet de repérer la cible avant qu'elle soit visible.

canauos a écrit :A noter aussi que le radar peut être intéressant pour le air/sol !
En mode locked beam il permet d'avoir une télémétrie à plus grande distance et donc de tirer d'un peu plus loin !

canauos a écrit :Quand tu fais du air/sol sans radar tu as les aiguilles qui t'indiquent la distance.

*Aquila* a écrit :On ne s'est pas compris. Je me sers moi-même du lock beam pour l'air-sol. Le lock beam permet de faire la télémétrie via le radar, tout simplement. Ce qui me semble aberrant, c'est qu'il y ait une télémétrie autre que via le radar, vu qu'il n'y a pas de télémètre embarqué. Donc soit c'est le radio-altimètre qui s'y colle sous forme de mode dégradé si le radar est en rade, soit cet affichage de distance sans radar + lock beam ne devrait pas exister.

canauos a écrit : En tous cas, moi, comme je en sais pas faire, je n'utilise pas le radar en air/sol

*Aquila* a écrit : Comment ça, tu ne sais pas faire? Tu fais pareil que sans lock beam. Tu paramètres ton ASP en fonction de l'armement que tu comptes délivrer, et pendant ta passe de tir, tu surveilles l'aiguille (l'échelle de distance tout en bas en l'occurrence) et les lampes (à gauche: tir autorisé, à droite, tir interdit). La seule spécificité de l'emploi du lock beam est que tu... actives ton radar et tu bascules dans ce mode avant la passe de tir.

The sight ASP-PFD is equipped with a block slant range, which according to altitude (barometric altimeter) and dive angle gives the range of the solution of a right triangle, the distance is the hypotenuse). As is clear in the mountains he will lie, but he was created for the war in Europe))))

Input of distance into ASP.
1.Automaticaly from radar 400-2000m.
Switches position:GUN or RKTS,FIRE,AUT,GYRO,AIR,target is LOCKED
(green light is ON)

2.Constant input 600-650m.
Switches position:GUN or RKTS.FIRE.AUT,GYRO,AIR,LOCK is interrupted.
(green light is OFF)
So,when LOCK is lost and last distance was for example 1200m,ASP auto-
maticaly has set 600-650m.The needle in transp.scale 400-2000m fluent- ly goes to 600-650m.When a pilot has renewed LOCK of target,ASP has set real distance.

3.Autmaticaly from radar 1-9km(for guided missiles)
Switches position:SS,RKTS,FIRE,AIR,target is LOCKED(green light is ON)

4.Constant input 483m.
It can be set as a radius of piper in mils by WINGSPAN inner scale on
topmost distance scale.
Switches position:SS,FIRE,AUT,AIR,GUN or RKTS,target is not LOCKED.

5.Minimal(fixed) distance 300m.
Switches position:FIRE,GUN,MAN,GYRO,AIR.Twist grip on throttle is set
fully forward(clockwise)-this is min. distance and the biggest diameter
of piper.Now we must set proper wingspan on outer scale HO 300m.
The red light BREAK OFF is on,gyroscope is automticaly dampered(slow
moving) The central dot of piper is nearly boresight line and a pilot must
have precisely frammed target.The target aspect is very small,so synchro-
nization of central dot of piper with target is very short(1-2sec)Firing is
performed by short ripple.Needle in distance scale 400-2000m is fully left.

6.Manual input of distance by optical rangefinder.
Switches position:GUN or RKTS,FIRE,MAN,GYRO,AIR.
Conditions:precisely setting of wingspan and precisely framed target.

7.Slant range input.
a.)by radar in fixed beam mode.(range scale 400-2000m)
Switches position:GUN or RKTS,FIRE,AUT,GYRO,GROUND.
b.)by slant range box.No radar used.
Switches position:the same.
The slant range is computed as a goniometrical function of height and
sinus of pitch angle.

Cobra once mentioned somewhere that the ASP in terms of ground targeting is oversimplified due to "gameplay" reasons. In essence it's a cheat that will give you a valid firing solution every time.

Quote: Originally Posted by some1 View Post
No you can't use it for bombing realistically.
In the real life you would take the bombing parameters from the table (which we don't have), adjust the gunsight elevation (which doesn't work) and try to fly the bombing profile manually as precisely as possible. Pretty much like it's done in the L-39, just faster.

You can use manual mode to achieve that. Unfortunately in automatic mode there is still a CCIP solution that shouldn't be there. It should be exclusive to game mode.
I bomb in manual mode and depress the pipper to the bottom of the ASP. I do not have any bomb charts though. I try to do steep dives and use the radar in fixed beam mode to get an idea of range to the target.