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Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 7:41 am
par flying.toaster
Alors :

moteur : Atar 9K50
poussée maxi PC : 15870 lb
conso spécifique PC : 1.96 lb/lb.hr
poussée maxi sec : 11060lb
conso specifique sec : 0.97 lb/lb.hr
mach maxi moteur 2.3

carburant:
fuselage : 3925 litres
ailes : 375 litres (elles sont carrément minces)
reservoirs pendulaires : jusqu'à 3480 litres (on peut trimbaler jusqu'à 3 réseroirs)
En général pour le kero la densité est de 0.82

perfos bidons données en comparaison avec le mirage III:
mach maxi entre 2 et 2.2
23% de réduction de longueur de piste à l'aterrissage
20% de réduction en vitesse d'approche
80% d'augmentation en manoeuvrabilité (complètement bidon je vous disais)

Mission:
Charge armement maxi : 5800Kg (magic, super R530)

Radar : Cyrano IV
Angles : 60º Azimut 30º Elevation
Affichage de profil terrain, fonction ground map avec capacité d'acquisition d'une cible sol à 5Km

Siège ejectable RM4 seulement utilisable à partir de 90kt (je crois que le CR a un mk10, a voir sur ejectionsite)

vu sur airliners.net, un pit de F1CR (ou CT je sais plus il faut chercher sur leur site)

Image

En espérant que ça serve

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 7:58 am
par Omega
La photo du cockpit est celle d'un mirage F1CR, d'après airliners.net.
Photo en haute déf+description:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/351121/L/
Le haut:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/356367/L/

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 8:44 am
par raoul volfoni
Quelques infos glanées ça et là :

DESCRIPTION:
The Mirage F.1 design uses the same fuselage as the Mirage III but replaces the delta wing of the Mirage III/5 family with a more traditional swept wing and horizontal tail. This change was made since many users of the earlier aircraft complained about the high landing speeds and large turn radii associated with delta-winged aircraft. The efficiency of the new wing coupled with a 40% increase in fuel capacity over the Mirage III results in a shorter takeoff length, twice the range, thrice the supersonic endurance, improved maneuverability, and much better low altitude performance. The F.1 has the distinction of being used by both sides in the 1991 Gulf War. Over 770 Mirage F.1s were built, almost 500 of them for foreign customers throughout Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America.

Data below for Mirage F.1C
Last modified 15 July 2000

HISTORY:
First Flight (F.1) 23 December 1966
(F.1C) 15 February 1973
(F.1CR) 20 November 1981
Service Entry

(F.1C) 1973

CREW:

1 pilot

ESTIMATED COST:

unknown

AIRFOIL SECTIONS:
Wing Root unknown
Wing Tip unknown

DIMENSIONS:
Length 49.96 ft (15.30 m)
Wingspan 27.50 ft (8.40 m)
Height 14.75 ft (4.50 m)
Wing Area 269.1 ft2 (25.0 m2)
Canard Area

not applicable

WEIGHTS:
Empty 16,314 lb (7,400 kg)
Typical Load 24,030 lb (10,900 kg)
Max Takeoff 35,715 lb (16,200 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: unknown
external: unknown
Max Payload

8,818 lb (4,000 kg)

PROPULSION:
Powerplant one SNECMA Atar 9K-50 afterburning turbojet
Thrust

15,873 lb (70.6 kN) with afterburner

PERFORMANCE:
Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,460 mph (2,350 km/h) at 39,370 ft (12,000 m), Mach 2.2
at sea level: 915 mph (1,470 km/h), Mach 1.2
Initial Climb Rate 44,000 ft (13,400 m) / min
Service Ceiling 65,615 ft (20,000 m)
Range typical: 756 nm (1,400 km)
ferry: 1,780 nm (3,300 km)
g-Limits

unknown

ARMAMENT:
Gun two 30-mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rds ea)
Stations five external hardpoints and two wingtip rails
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9 Sidewinder, Matra R.530, Matra 550 Magic
Air-to-Surface Missile AS.30, AS.37, Wasp
Bomb 250/500 kg bombs
Other

rocket pods, ECM pods

KNOWN VARIANTS:
F.1A Ground attack fighter with no radar and simple avionics
F.1B Two-seat combat-capable trainer
F.1C One-seat all-weather interceptor with more advanced electronics
F.1CG One-seat interceptor used by Greece; 40 built
F.1CH One-seat interceptor used by Morocco; 18 built
F.1C-200 F.1C models upgraded with in-flight refueling capability; 25 converted
F.1CR One-seat reconnaissance model based on F.1C-200 equipped with panoramic and infrared cameras as well as numerous specialized external pods, also has secondary attack capability and can carry AAMs for self-defense; 64 built
F.1CT Attack model based on F.1C
F.1D Two-seat model based on F.1E, for export
F.1E One-seat attack fighter with more sophisticated nav/attack system and all-weather capability, for export
F.1EH One-seat attack fighter used by Morocco; 20 built
F.1JA One-seat fighter for Ecuador with interceptor and ground attack capabilities
F.1R Reconnaissance model

KNOWN COMBAT RECORD: Iran-Iraq War (Iraq, 1980-1988)
Iraq - Operation Desert Storm (Iraq, Kuwait, 1991)
Bosnia - Operation Deliberate Force (France, 1995)
Iraq - Operation Desert Fox (Iraq, 1998)

KNOWN OPERATORS: France (251)
Ecuador (18)
Greece (40)
Iraq (113+16 not delivered)
Jordan (36)
Kuwait (33)
Libya (38)
Morocco (50)
Qatar (15)
South Africa (48)
Spain (73)

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 8:46 am
par raoul volfoni
Et quelques infos sur les versions et leurs spécificités :

Other versions

Mirage F1B

There is also an operational conversion of the Mirage F1B two-seater aircraft, of which the French Air Force ordered 20 and which was delivered between October 1980 and March 1983. The extra seat and controls added only 30 cm to the length of the fuselage, but at the cost of less internal fuel capacity and the loss of the internal cannon.

The empty weight increased by 200 kg, partly due to the addition of two Martin-Baker Mk 10 zero-zero ejection seats, instead of Mk 4 used in the F1C, which had a forward speed limitation.

In all other aspects the F1B is a combat-capable aircraft and it can compensate the lack of internal space by carrying external cannon and fuel tanks.

Mirage F1CR

When it became clear that the Mirage F1 was becoming a successful production aircraft, Dassault began investigating the possibility of a dedicated reconnaissance version for its most important client, the French Air Force. However, the escalating cost of fighter aircraft meant that add-on pods for this purpose were a more economical alternative.

Many French Air Force aircraft, but also those of some export clients (such as the Mirage F1EQ of Iraq), did indeed have a variety of reconnaissance pods available, which were attached to the inderside of the main fuselage.

However, the development of a tactical reconnaissance aircraft for the French Air Force continued and the first Mirage F1CR-200 flew on 20 November 1981.

The Mirage F1CR carries a variety of reconnaisance equipment, both internally and externally:

* A SAT SCM2400 Super Cyclone infrared linescan unit is installed in the space previously occupied by the cannon.
* A space under the nose can be used for a Thomson-TRT 40 panoramic camera or a Thomson-TRT 33 vertical camera.
* The Cyrano IVM-R radar has extra ground and contour mapping modules.
* Additional optical an electronic sensors can be carried on the hardpoints under the fuselage and wings.

A total of 64 examples of the Mirage F1CR were ordered by the French Air Force, the first of which flew on 10 November 1982. The first unit using the aircraft bacame operational in July 1983.

Mirage F1CT

The Mirage F1CT is the tactical ground attack version of the Mirage F1C-200. The first two prototypes were conversions. The first flew on 3 May 1991. Another 55 examples followed up to 1995 - these were conversions carried out by the workshops of the French Air Force.

The Mirage F1CT programme brought the avionics of the F1C up to the standard of the F1CR:

* The Cyrano IV radar was replaced by the Cyrano IVM-R.
* The navigation/attack system was upgraded and included a laser distance meter.
* Mk 10 ejection seats were added.
* Improved radar detection and warning devices, chaff/flare dispensers and secure radios were also added.
* Facilities for a variety of new weapons were added.

Mirage F1AZ and Mirage F1CZ

The South African Air Force (SAAF) flew both the F1AZ ground attack version as well as the radar-equipped F1CZ fighter.

The first 2 examples of the first order (48, including 32 F1AZs) were delivered on 5 April 1975. Both F1CZs were transported under a blanket of secrecy by a C-130 Hercules of the SAAF. In July of the same year the remainder of the F1CZs were delivered. In 1975 the F1CZs also appeared at a South African airshow, buth the public wasn't informed that the aircraft were already operational in the SAAF.

The F1AZ was developed in conjunction with Avions Marcel Dassault (AMD) and the SAAF as a dedicated ground attack variant, and has so far only entered South African service. The AZ variant had a laser-based range-finder, permitting extremely accurate fuzing and aiming of unguided munitions, which consist of bombs, and unguided rockets. Optical design was by ARMSCOR in South Africa, by the Optics (later ELOPTRO) division of that company. Despite their retirement in 1997 the accuracy of the F1AZ's armament's delivery is still considered classified information by the SAAF, but observer analysis by informed services (e.g. (Jane's_Defence_Weekly), and pilot reports (Commandant Dick Lord, 'Vlamgat', 1999) conclude that the AZ variant has accuracies within the order disclosed by the USAF for their F-15E Strike Eagle in unguided ballistic mode (source - Jane's 'F15', Electronic Arts, 1996; Janes 'All the Worlds Aircraft', 2000)

The F1AZs were delivered between November 1975 and October 1976. They were assigned to 1 Squadron, stationed at AFB Waterkloof. This acquisition was also kept secret from the rest of the world - 1 Squadron was only allowed to display its new aircraft in February 1980.

Both variants saw action during operations in Angola, during which two Angolan Mig-21s were shot down by F1CZs. At least one F1CZ was shot down by an Angolan surface-to-air missile; it was repaired using parts from a crashed aircraft.

The SAAF retired the F1CZs in 1992, followed by the F1AZs in 1997.

As an experiment a Mirage F1 was equipped with a Klimov RD-33 engine (the same engine as used in the Mig-29) by Aerosud. This development was dubbed the "SuperMirage" F1, and held the distinction of being the first Western aircraft to perform a display at the MAKS airshow in Moscow.

As of 2004 21 F1AZs remain in storage at AFB Hoedspruit, awaiting a possible buyer.

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 8:53 am
par raoul volfoni
Et puis, une info qui a été déclassifiée il y a peu, concernant le F1-CR :
Le 11 décembre 1985 voit, en grande pompe, le baptême du nouveau Mirage. Une marraine de rêve est présente pour cet événement : Miss France 85 : Suzanne Iskandar ... qui ne laissera personne indifférent !!! Miss France est conduite, fort élégamment, vers son filleul par le Petit Prince et la Hache.
ça vous en bouche un coin, ça hein? :jumpy:

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 9:45 am
par Black Angel
Salut,
je posséde plusieurs docs sur les F1, versions CR entre autre, mais aussi sur les autres. :P
Je peux faire des photocopies,( je peux voir pour un scanner si tu préfère, mais pas sur :rolleyes: ) et te les expédier si tu me donne ton adresse domicile sur un message perso.
Autrement, mes sources viennent d'une collection "avions de guerre" que j'avais fait dans les années 80. :P Il y a des ecorchés, les emports possibles, les pays utilisareurs, caractéristique techniques,(plafond, vit tba, vit ha, course deco, charge of, peinture de guerre, etc....) ;)

@+

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 7:28 pm
par TOPOLO
Voici la doc qui a été faite pour les Modèles de vol du Mirage F1 sous FALCON 4.0
Doc Mirage F1 (format pdf)
Si ça peut être utile.....
P.S. vous pouvez réutiliser tout ce que vous voulez, vous avec la bénédiction de l'auteur.

Publié : mer. juin 29, 2005 8:58 pm
par Knell
Merci topolo, je cherchais justement a recuperer ta doc

Publié : jeu. juin 30, 2005 1:17 am
par bpao
superbe doc .. ca vas servir pour SFP1 aussi ...

merci ..

Olivier

ps : non je fait que le mec qui pique tout ce qui dépasse. :rolleyes:

Publié : jeu. juin 30, 2005 12:31 pm
par TOPOLO
Il existe le même genre de doc pour la famille III/5
La même doc pour Mirage III-5
Et même pour les 2000 et Rafale...
Ma page Modèle de Vol

Publié : mer. juil. 06, 2005 2:55 am
par Kiss
Cool, tu vas pouvoir correller avec ce que tu as en mains pour voir si c'est pas trop loin de la réalité et si c'est le cas ça donne déja de bonnes bases pour le modele de vol.....
Reste plus qu'a trouver le meme genre de doc sur le systeme d'arme et le F1 a Knell est pilotable dans two more weeks..... :adonf!:

:exit:

Publié : mer. juil. 06, 2005 7:47 am
par Knell
Voila, two more weeks olegienne :)

Publié : mer. juil. 06, 2005 5:04 pm
par Oxitom
Originally posted by TOPOLO@29 Jun 2005, 18:28
Voici la doc qui a été faite pour les Modèles de vol du Mirage F1 sous FALCON 4.0
Ah tiens, y'as certaines photos que je reconnais. ;)

Publié : lun. juil. 11, 2005 4:29 pm
par TOPOLO
Si y a des photos que tu connais sans mention des copyright nécessaires, ou des photos dnt tu as les droits et que tu ne souhaites pas qu'elles sient inclues, fais moi signe, et bien sûr si il y a des problèmes, je corrigerai.....

Publié : lun. juil. 11, 2005 9:07 pm
par Oxitom
Je les ais diffusées sans copyright donc ce n'est pas un problème. ;)
Je suis content qu'elles servent a quelque chose. :)