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Bon j'avais la version 1 du TIR et la 3.00 du soft installée sur win 2000.
Je désinstalle tout, reboot etc...

Réinstalle le soft 3.11 et branche le TIR3

Ca marche pas .

Ai tout refait 20 fois et je suis pas un newbie.

Voilà ce qui merdouille :

9-20-2004
Registry Log Begin (Installation):
  Found file (removing) : R:\WINNT\inf\npusb.pnf
  Found Key (removing) : \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\0009
  Found Key (removing) : \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\0010
  Found Key (removing) : \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceClasses\{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}\##?#USB#Vid_0547&Pid_0080#6&1b9ae578&0&2#{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}
  Found Key (removing) : \SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceClasses\{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}\##?#USB#Vid_0547&Pid_1002#6&1b9ae578&0&2#{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131D&Pid_0155
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131D&Pid_0155
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EZUSB
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EZUSBDEV
9-20-2004
Registry Log Begin (Un-Installation):
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002
  Found Key (removing) : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131D&Pid_0155
    ! Failed to remove key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131D&Pid_0155

Il arrive pas à effacer les anciennes références du TIR1 dans la base de registre, donc au lancement il (Windows) cherche le TIR1 or c'est le TIR3 qui est branché donc ça marche pas...

Je me dis comme ça, pas grave, on va effacer ça à la main :
sauf que j'ai beau etre administrateur et avoir vérifié toutes les autorisations, ça veut pas effacer.
J'ai remis les autorisations via la console de récupération administrateur, vérifier sysedit etc. rien à faire, je n'ai pas accès à ces clés. J'ai tout effacé désisntallé manuellement au niveau matériel, rien à faire...

Sur un autre HD sous win 98 ou sous Win 2000 avec des bases de registre propres, sans le TIR1, ça s'installe nickel et ça marche, donc pas de pb hardware !

COMMENT effacer ces p... ... de lignes dans la base de registre ???? !!!!! :((
(J'aimerais éviter de réinstaller windows et tout le reste juste pour ça !!)

Y a t il un moyen d'éditer la base de registre en bootant sur un autre systèmle (j'ai 5 HD digfférents bootables, mais je ne sais pas si et comment on peut modifier la base de registre située dans une autre partition (ex je boote sur D: sous win 2000 et je veux modifier la base du win2000 situé sur W: sur lequel je n'ai pas booté)


MERCI si qqn peut m'aider !!!
PS (evidemment j'ai pas un backup de windows avant install du TIR1 et après, parce que j'ai installé plein d'autres choses depuis)

ci dessous la section HKeyLocalMachine \SYSTEM\CONTROLSET001\ENUM\USB
de ma base de registre inciriminée : (excusez c'est long)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB]

[Edit ...]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080\6&1b9ae578&0&2]
"DeviceDesc"="ECT NaturalPoint Loader"
"LocationInformation"="USB Device"
"Capabilities"=dword:00000084
"HardwareID"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,35,\
  00,34,00,37,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,38,00,30,00,26,00,\
  52,00,65,00,76,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,30,00,31,00,00,00,55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,\
  00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,35,00,34,00,37,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,\
  5f,00,30,00,30,00,38,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
"CompatibleIDs"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,\
  5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,\
  00,66,00,66,00,26,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,74,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,\
  00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,00,\
  00
"ClassGUID"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}"
"Class"="USB"
"Driver"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\\0009"
"Mfg"="Eye Control Technologies"
"Service"="EZUSBDEV"
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080\6&1b9ae578&0&2\Device Parameters]
"SymbolicName"="\\??\\USB#Vid_0547&Pid_0080#6&1b9ae578&0&2#{a5dcbf10-6530-11d2-901f-00c04fb951ed}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_0080\6&1b9ae578&0&2\LogConf]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002\6&1b9ae578&0&2]
"DeviceDesc"="ECT NaturalPoint Tracker"
"LocationInformation"="USB Device"
"Capabilities"=dword:00000084
"HardwareID"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,35,\
  00,34,00,37,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,31,00,30,00,30,00,32,00,26,00,\
  52,00,65,00,76,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,30,00,31,00,00,00,55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,\
  00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,35,00,34,00,37,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,\
  5f,00,31,00,30,00,30,00,32,00,00,00,00,00
"CompatibleIDs"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,\
  5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,\
  00,30,00,30,00,26,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,74,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,\
  00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,00,\
  00
"ClassGUID"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}"
"Class"="USB"
"Driver"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\\0010"
"Mfg"="Eye Control Technologies"
"Service"="EZUSB"
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_0547&Pid_1002\6&1b9ae578&0&2\LogConf]

[Edit ...]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155\6&1b9ae578&0&2]
"DeviceDesc"="USB Device"
"LocationInformation"="USB Device"
"Capabilities"=dword:00000004
"HardwareID"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,31,00,33,\
  00,31,00,64,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,31,00,35,00,35,00,26,00,\
  52,00,65,00,76,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,30,00,31,00,00,00,55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,\
  00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,31,00,33,00,31,00,64,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,\
  5f,00,30,00,31,00,35,00,35,00,00,00,00,00
"CompatibleIDs"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,\
  5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,\
  00,30,00,30,00,26,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,74,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,\
  00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,00,\
  53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,00,\
  00
"ClassGUID"="{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155\6&1b9ae578&0&2\LogConf]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155\6&1b9ae578&0&2\Control]
"DeviceReference"=dword:81437cb0

Je vais peut étre dire une bétise, mais as tu pensé a faire un coup de regcleaner ?
Perso, a chaque soft que je desinstalle je le fais : reboot du PC, appui sur la touche F8 pour un demarrage sans echec, puis passage de regcleaner. Il controle toute les clefs et selectionne celles qui sont invalides. Il te propose ensuite de les virer.
Peut pas t'aider plus ...

ben en fait non, j'y pensais plus à celui là, merci de me le rappeller, mais j'y crois pas trop qd meme..., c'est le meme topo en mode sans echec...

Pour info,
je crois qu il y a un regclean dans le rep de naturalpoint...
Essaye toujours ca...

merci koolen, pb réglé avec l'utilitaire de Natural Point dans le dossier Programs Files\Natural Point\TrackIR

Sinon, en utilisant regedt32.exe plutôt que regedit.exe tu peux faire la manip' car il dispose d'une option concernant les autorisations dans le menu édition...Comme regedit, regedt32 est inclus dans win2000 et winXP.

++

C'est justement ce que je n'ai pas compris : ça marchait pas avec les bonnes autorisations dans regedt32 alors que ça a marché avec les outils TIR... bizarre mais enfin bon, le resultat est obtenu, c'est tout ce que je voulais...

Bon encore du nouveau :

suite reinstall OS, tout propre : sous win2000 + SP4 + toutes mises à jour au 02/10/04

installation TIR 3 nickel

Si je débranche le TIR et que je le rebranche ensuite (après arret ou non de Windows) sur la meme prise USB, alors Windows ne me le reconnait plus : périphérique USB inconnu !!!
j'i beau lui dire di lire li fichier NPUSB3.INF dans WIN\DRIVERS rien n'y fait !!!! s' t'ispice dy coun il veut pas li reconnaitre !! :( :(( :modor:

OS Win2K patché SP4 et derniers correctifs. installation drivers carte mère, SATA, keyboardd et mouse, c'est tout. Avec ou sans drivers carte graphique, meme topo. aucun soft autre installé !! y a pas plus propre !!! Je comprends pas !!!!

pb d'alim sur le port USB ? [EDIT] : négatif !

je devrais pouvoir le débrancher/rebrancher sans avoir ce pb non ? [EDIT] Affirmatif !

Pour ceux qui ont des pbs de détection et d'install / USB

Sur le forum de Natural Point : c'est connu et ça arrive : pbs de gestion du registre et des clés USB sur certains OS et systèmes.
Consultez le fichier setupapi.log dans windows.

Pour info chez moi ça tourne nickel sur 98 et Millenium et 2000 non patché et XP non patché ; pas sur 2000 patché et XP patché

il y a un nouveau driver version 3.12

Suite pbs de reconnaissance du driver TIR 3 Pro par win2000 (tous patches et sécurités à jour au 02/10/04 => à l'origine du problème vraisemblablement d'après Wayne (contact sur le forum SAV de NaturalPoint)) J'ai pas le pb sous Win9X ni WinMe non patchés, ni sous WinXP Pro non patché. J'ai aussi le pb sous Win Xp Pro patché 1 et patch 2 et sécurités GDI+ de octobre 2004.

voilà les fichiers d'édition du registre qu'il m'a transmis et le contenu de nos derniers mails : (on est sur win2000Pro patché)
ça devrait servir à ceux qui ont des pbs. Pour moi on cherche encore, c'est pas suffisant :

Hi,


This is the registry fix that I have been working on over the weekend.
Below is the reg file for Win XP the attached files are for Win2K, the
notes below are for reference only.  I may have to make a small change
to the second registy file depending on the security updates on your
system, but as a rule this should work.  I have made it as easy as
possible, so you should not have any trouble, if you have any problems
please let me know.  The reg entries below are for reference only, so
please edit the attached files and insert into your registry. Your
VID/PID number is 131d/0155, you will find these in the attached reg.
files.

However it is important to back up your registry.  We have now
determined that the problem is in the registry on the host computer.

Here is how to get TrackIR to work under WindowsXP (with this pesky
USB-Device error).

I have also wrote this for the latest drivers, TrackIR v3.12.  These can
be downloaded from our website.  The whole procedure should take not
more than about 10 to 15 minutes

1. Install driver software from CD or from Download-File version TrackIR
v3.12.

########################################################################
################

2. Plug in TrackIR into the USB port you want. Windows will only detect
the "USB Device", go on and let it search automatically for the driver
and afterwards press finish (when the "could not find driver"-message)
appears.

Now you have the Address of the USB Device with TrackIR connected in
your registry

(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155\
).

Search for it, there is now a sub-key with the "Name" of the USB-Port
where it is connected. For example: "5&19f90583&0&1" [if this is not the
only sub-key, you will have to delete all of them (right click and check
admin rights before you start) and then afterwards plug in TrackIR in
-one- port - then there is only one address.

Je dois signaler ici qu'il faut modifer cette adresse USB pour chaque ligne où elle apparait dans les exemples ci-dessous

########################################################################
################

3. Insert the following Registry key: (in this case the USB-Port is
"5&19f90583&0&1". If you allocate the "USB-Device"-Entry under a
different key, you must alter all "5&19f90583&0&1"-Strings below to the
entry you found.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131d&Pid_0155\
5&81b33e8&0&1]
"DeviceDesc"="NaturalPoint trackIR 3" "LocationInformation"="USB Device"
"Capabilities"=dword:00000084 "UINumber"=dword:00000000
"HardwareID"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,31,0
0,33,\

00,31,00,64,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,30,00,31,00,30,00,35,00,26,
00,\

52,00,65,00,76,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,30,00,31,00,00,00,55,00,53,00,42,00,
5c,\

00,56,00,69,00,64,00,5f,00,31,00,33,00,31,00,64,00,26,00,50,00,69,00,64,
00,\
5f,00,30,00,31,00,30,00,35,00,00,00,00,00
"CompatibleIDs"=hex(7):55,00,53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,7
3,00,\

5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,53,00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,
5f,\

00,30,00,30,00,26,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,74,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,
00,\

53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,26,00,
53,\

00,75,00,62,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,30,00,30,00,00,00,55,
00,\

53,00,42,00,5c,00,43,00,6c,00,61,00,73,00,73,00,5f,00,66,00,66,00,00,00,
00,\
00
"ClassGUID"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}"
"Class"="USB" "Driver"="{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\\0011"
"Mfg"="NaturalPoint"
"Service"="NPUSB"
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
########################################################################
###########

4. Insert this to your registry: (This is the NPUSB-Service, where I
think there might be a problem during the normal installation routine.)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NPUSB]
"Type"=dword:00000001
"Start"=dword:00000003
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00
,64,00,\

72,00,69,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,5c,00,6e,00,70,00,75,00,73,00,62,00,
2e,\
00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NPUSB\Security]
"Security"=hex:01,00,14,80,90,00,00,00,9c,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,
00,02,\

00,1c,00,01,00,00,00,02,80,14,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,
00,\

00,00,02,00,60,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,fd,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,
00,\

05,12,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,
00,\

20,02,00,00,00,00,14,00,8d,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,0b,00,00,00,
00,\

00,18,00,fd,01,02,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,23,02,00,00,01,
01,\

00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00#######
########################################################################
##########

5. Finally install this last registry entry (also just copy into a
....reg-file and install it):

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{36FC9E60-C465-11
CF-8056-444553540000}\0011]
"InfPath"="npusb3.inf"
"InfSection"="NPUSB"
"InfSectionExt"=".NT"
"ProviderName"="NaturalPoint"
"MatchingDeviceId"="usb\\vid_131d&pid_0155"
"DriverDesc"="NaturalPoint trackIR 3"
########################################################################
#################

Now, after a reboot (leave TrackIR in the same port) it should work. If
not, you will have to do all the entries also under "CurrentControlSet"
additionally to the already made "ControlSet001". (But this should
happen automatically during the reboot)

Please let me know if everything worked or if you have any problems.

-Wayne

Wayne Oakes
NaturalPoint
Customer & Developer Support Manager
541-753-6645 ext.10
wayne@naturalpoint.com
http://www.naturalpoint.com

-----Original Message-----
From: froggy.sim-fr@easyconnect.fr [mailto:froggy.sim-fr@easyconnect.fr]

Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:04 AM
To: Wayne
Subject: Re: TRACK IR Support : Install bug


About the security problem I have with registry edition or install
runtime from TrackIR, I forgot to specify that I'm using Win2000 + SP4
update + IE6 + IE6SP1 + High Encryption pack + all updates (last update
is from last week with GDI+ issue form Microsoft) : so my system is up
to date about security.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne
To: froggy.sim-fr@easyconnect.fr
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: TRACK IR Support : Install bug


Hi,

The registry fix that I use is for WinXP. Win2K does not normally cause
this issue as the problem is with a permission/registry issue on the
host computer, with a result of the updates in XP.

After looking at your setupapi you posted on the forums I am going to
look at a registry fix for your machine. I will need to run some tests
in Virtual Machine to ensure that there will be no problems, with
editing certain key strings and values.
If you can give me a day or so to look at this, and I will have you up
and running in no time

Cheers
Wayne

Wayne Oakes
NaturalPoint
Customer & Developer Support Manager
541-753-6645 ext.10
wayne@naturalpoint.com
http://www.naturalpoint.com

-----Original Message-----
From: froggy.sim-fr@easyconnect.fr [mailto:froggy.sim-fr@easyconnect.fr]

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:11 AM
To: wayne@naturalpoint.com
Subject: TRACK IR Support : Install bug


please

could you check lasts posts from froggy.sim-fr at

http://forums.naturalpoint.com/cgi-bin/ ... topic&f=24
&t=000008&p=4#000083

thanks